April 12, 2025

S2E6: We Were Promised Robot Maids and Underwater Cities, But All We Got Was This Lousy Smartphone

S2E6: We Were Promised Robot Maids and Underwater Cities, But All We Got Was This Lousy Smartphone
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Season 2

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We reflect on what we thought the future would be like when we were kids, compared to the reality of our current world.

• Tribute to Val Kilmer, discussing his iconic roles from Real Genius to Tombstone
• Expectations vs reality of technology—where are our flying cars and robot maids?
• Childhood predictions about life in the year 2000 and beyond
• How Gen X believed in a future of improved health, environment, and space exploration
• Memories of nuclear war fears and Disney's optimistic visions of tomorrow
• Five Minutes of Fame: Amy's adventure meeting Henry Rollins in Dublin
• Sharing backstage stories of meeting celebrities after concerts

Join us next time in our newly renovated studio space, complete with a vintage 70s home bar for mixing cocktails on set.


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00:00 - Episode Introduction

03:36 - Studio Revamp and Changes

08:11 - Val Kilmer Tribute

24:30 - Childhood Future Predictions

36:48 - Where Are Our Flying Cars?

49:24 - Five Minutes of Fame: Henry Rollins

56:09 - Backstage Celebrity Encounters

59:14 - Episode Wrap-Up

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I'm Megan Bennett,

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I'm Lesley Meier

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and this is Gen X.

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Women Are Sick of this Shit.

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Megan.

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Hey, how are you?

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We're far away from one another.

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We are.

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I don't care for it personally.

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It is what makes me think of did you watch during COVID the David Tennant?

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During COVID the David Tennant, michael Sheen.

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Yes

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, I do have a little bit of like.

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I want to do that.

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That's so cool Because they were so fucking funny.

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Can we do it without a pandemic, though?

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That's the key.

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Yeah, for sure.

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I don't want one of those.

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Odds are you and I won't live to see the next pandemic.

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I hope that's true

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, that technically over the past you know there's been like a pandemic every hundred years, but we are giving it the old college try.

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We're really working on another pandemic To make things happen a little bit faster than we did in the past.

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Yeah, it's a good time.

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We like it.

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Hi, here we are on the internet.

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Hi Lesley

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Hi Megan, how are you on the?

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internet.

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It's a little weird.

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I'm distracted by myself

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got a lot of buttons to push.

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Do you?

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I'm just the pictures and the.

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You know, I see a lot of clients on the internet and I like hide myself so that I am not aware of this, but I thought I should keep track and make sure I'm not doing anything.

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Yeah, it's good, I can see you, you can see see me, all the things.

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So we're here, it's great, yeah, and there are people who are listening to us who have no idea what the freak we're talking about nope that's true.

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Tell them what's up, yeah.

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So we are uh.

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Well, you are revamping the studio, yeah, and getting us some new cool shit in the studio, so we'll have like a new look and a new feel.

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The sofa was great, but it was functional.

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It was time.

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It was time.

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It's gonna be cool too, I think.

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I think that's gonna be really good.

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It was sort of like necessity because the you know we figured the couch out, but it was.

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You know, it had some limitations.

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Now we have a set.

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I think that will be more dynamic.

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That's fun, allow for more interaction.

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It will allow for more cocktail mixing.

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Excellent, I mean whatever you need.

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We could bring a guest in.

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They could take a stool with us if there are folks locally that we want to chat with, and we could maybe put a guest on a TV screen and just have their head sitting on the set.

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I didn't think about that, but that's really fun.

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We could do that.

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That would be really fun.

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It would be like the future.

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That's the way forward machine.

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That is the way forward machine, just to tease our our gen expert, not an expert main segment today.

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Yeah, before we get to that, though, we've got, um, we've got some other shit to talk about.

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Right, we do yes, what is the bullshit and hot goss for this week?

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What is the bullshit and hot goss for this week?

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Well, so we lost Val Kilmer this week, so I guess that is our not really hot goss.

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Well, I guess it's hot goss, it's gossip Sort of, but it's gossip, but we know it's true.

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Yeah, we really should probably just rename the segment to who Died this Week.

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We really should, because that's what we talk about.

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That is what we talk about, although I suspect at some time we'll have a week where we don't have somebody who just drops dead.

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I don't know.

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Maybe, maybe not.

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I don't know.

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We'll find out in the future.

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Al Kilmer passed away on April 1st.

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Yeah, I'll kill my Pestway on April 1st, not an.

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April Fool's joke?

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No, it was not an April Fool's joke.

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Although it's interesting because the first so I was in the Facebook group and I was putting some posts through and I saw a couple of them of people talking about him passing away, and then somebody else.

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I was putting some posts through and I saw a couple of them of people, you know, talking about him passing away, and then somebody else posted, or wanted to post, that they thought that that was not real, that they had heard that it was a, an April fool's joke, so that, of course, made its rounds too.

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So but it was true.

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It was true.

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So well, so, but it was true, it was true.

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Well, what do you in when you think of mr val kilmer?

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What, uh, what movies, what?

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What springs to mind for you?

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What was your favorite?

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uh, oh, favorite I don't, I who knows?

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Okay, so real genius yeah, he was so fucking sexy in real genius.

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And laszlo hollyfeld is in real genius yeah, statistically wins all of the prizes in whatever giveaway contest enters it.

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It's so magnificent.

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So much about that movie I was absolutely convinced was going to be my college experience, like ice in the hallways.

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Yep, that was going to happen.

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That pool scene, the big party.

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Yeah, popcorn, the popcorn in the house, god in the tooth.

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So pretty good stuff.

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Uh, so that was one another oft quoted val kilmer film willow.

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Yeah, mad morgan, you really are great and the dingo, ate my baby, those two lines that, that, that that line is.

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That line is like I.

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In fact, I didn't even remember that that was from that movie.

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That's hilarious because it's people just say it all the time yeah, and you're like why yeah, that's why I guess I always assumed it was like a uh, I don't know a paul hogan, paul hogan.

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Is that right?

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Right, it would make sense.

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Yes, you're correct.

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But no, apparently it wasn't.

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It doesn't make any sense in that movie, but okay.

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Well, I have like a list of probably five more.

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I mean, Top Gun was probably our generation's big Because that was his that wasn't his first movie, obviously, because Real Genius was before that, right.

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I don't think we should commit to any particular timeline.

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Not till we look this up, but if that's not true, he looks much older in Top Gun than Real Genius.

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He looks much older in Top Gun than real genius magic of mystery.

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Unsurprising, he was Swedish.

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So there you go.

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Not shocked about that.

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Well, he was from California.

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Okay, we're gonna go backwards.

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He was Swedish by like Swedish.

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His family is Swedish, I mean because he lived in California.

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Okay, we're going to go.

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He was Swedish by like Swedish.

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His family is Swedish, I mean because he lived in California.

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He grew up in California, yeah, yeah, because my cousin actually went to high school with him.

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Oh, that's crazy.

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She said he was an asshole.

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In high school yes.

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Oh yeah, she was in theater with him in high school Swedish boys in high school.

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But here, here's cool while you look that up while you, while you figure out what the hell his first movie was.

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I will tell you what I think is the most impressive thing about him, asshole or not.

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In high school he was the youngest person to attend Juilliard.

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Oh my goodness, at the time like the youngest person, so that's cool.

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Yeah, that's kind of a big deal.

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So may have been a jerk in high school, but still pretty damn good actor.

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Very talented yeah, did you watch the documentary about?

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I did not.

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No, I haven't yet so my spouse and I watched it.

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It was really good.

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Um, and they went into his whole phrase on a cracker, all the words are going straight out the mark twain stage.

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Oh yeah, that he was doing okay, which was just moving as he was.

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I think he got diagnosed like during the opening of that or something like that, like it started and then everything stopped, which was fascinating and he was incredible from the clips that we saw in that.

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Um and then, well, this is kind of a spoiler, but not like if you watch it the whole thing is narrated by his son but you don't know until the end, because he sounds just like his dad.

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Oh, that's cool and it's it's just wild.

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It was really really very good.

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I had tons of empathy.

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His um relationship with his daughter was very sweet.

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I mean just them spending time with him.

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Yes, it was good.

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It's literally taken me this fucking long I'm kind of vamping to find this list.

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Okay, top Secret was 1984, so 11.

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Real Genius in 1985.

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Top Gun in 1986.

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Yeah, so good.

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Okay, so Top Secret was the first one.

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Top Gun in 1986.

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Yeah, so good.

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Okay, so Top Secret was the first one.

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Top Secret was first, oh, okay.

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There you go, nick.

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Rivers.

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I like it Okay.

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And then Willow was 1988.

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The Doors 1991.

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These are just my favorites that I'm pulling out.

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You know my husband hates.

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Jim Morrison so much that he actually hates Val Kilmer, because of that movie.

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It's a long way to go around just disliking somebody but I dislike him because of that.

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You did such a good job.

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I hate you.

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Uh, tombstone was 1993.

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One of that's my favorite so good batman 95, ghost and the darkness 96, along with the island of dr moreau.

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Oh, yeah, oh.

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I forgot about that one, and that's kind of when I stopped watching Val Kilmer movies.

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Yeah, I would agree, that's yeah.

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I think that's about when he dropped off Kiss, kiss, bang Bang.

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I feel like I have watched that, but I don't recall.

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Yeah don't know.

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But he went on to make you know a ton more movies.

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Oh, he was in the Jay and Silent Bob reboot in 2019.

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Didn't know.

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And then, of course, pop Gun Maverick, which just came out in 2021.

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Yep, there you go.

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That's awesome.

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What's your most favorite of, or the one that you just enjoy?

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It doesn't have to be your favorite what's your most favorite of, or the one that you just enjoy it doesn't have to be your favorite, probably, as in I mean, going to school for acting myself.

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I think the one that I enjoyed the most was Tombstone, because his, his portrayal in that, in that particular movie, was so good.

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I mean, I really felt like this guy's got tuberculosis and he was a little snarky.

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You know, it was exactly what I and what I think that that character, you know, that that person really was just, it was perfect, so really liked that and it was a I don't know.

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That was probably my favorite and I know I've seen Top Gun many times.

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It's been a long time since I've seen it, but that kind of sticks in my head too.

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But man, top Secret was just so freaking funny.

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Yes, that it's, I don't know, like bravo to him for that being his first film and coming out strong with comedy like that.

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That's really hard to do yes.

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Incredible range.

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Right when you look at all of those movies like incredible range yeah.

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Yeah, he did sing the doors, all the stuff on the doors himself, doors, all the stuff on the doors himself.

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So he went to Oliver Stone and said, if I sing and you can't tell the difference, you have to let me sing on the film.

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And Oliver Stone couldn't tell the difference.

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So he got to.

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He got to sing actually on the on the movie instead of lip sing.

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Pretty cool yeah.

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That movie came out as if it was 91.

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I was graduating from high school and going to college, yep, and it was sort of like the epitome of like jim morrison's so cool, val kilmer's so cool, like party band.

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Do whatever you want, I'm the lizard king.

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Let's go trip in the desert.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah Didn't end well.

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Well, you know it's hard on your body these things.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's hard to be a rock star and an actor, both, both and yeah.

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So we will miss him.

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I think that you know his, uh, his health struggle was was a hard.

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It was hard, it was hard to watch.

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It was, you know, you see, somebody who was in Real Genius and in the Doors and was kind of this hottie, hottie, go through something that's just so hard and difficult and that, on top of aging, you know, it's like it hits home a lot when you as you, as you and you watch people or once the you know, the super hot, sexy sexies get old and pass away.

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Oof, not fun.

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And your body is your instrument as an actor.

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So anything that impacts your body, your voice, your ability to, move.

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I like that he was still working on acting without a voice.

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That's pretty impressive, shows how much and how committed he was to that craft?

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yeah, his scene.

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I watched his scene in um top gun maverick and it was really touching with p and tom freeze.

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It was good, they did a nice job.

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The instone you talked about the tuberculosis thing.

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I was reading just random shit.

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Did you read about how he, like, did that scene?

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No, oh, tell me, he laid on a bed of ice.

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He did what.

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He did what he laid on a bed of ice so that he would mimic the shivering and sweating of dying of tuberculosis.

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Oh my goodness, so that it would look real.

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So when you said that, I was like I wonder if she knows that.

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No, I didn't know that, but that's you know.

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Talk about method dude Sucks, don't do that.

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But that's you know.

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Talk about method dude Sucks, don't do that.

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Well, yeah, hope he got paid a few extra bucks.

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We'll talk off the show about the Island of the Island.

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There are a couple of movies like Art Imitating Life, life Imitating Art.

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I just thought that they were so interesting when those two movies came out.

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Okay, but anyway, uh, rip, we'll love you, val kilmer yep, miss, we'll miss him no well.

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So I think we also need to know what we're sick of this particular week.

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What shit are we sick of this week?

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I don't know man, what are you sick of?

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I feel like I'm a broken record, so I'm sick of all the shit all the time.

00:16:46.918 --> 00:16:47.881
But what about you?

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Oh, you know I'm sick of people being sick.

00:16:53.961 --> 00:16:57.556
Oh, you got January.

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My, you know our dear producer has been sick I think three times in three months.

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Uh, I have had a cold but just like in general, like in my work, I noticed people have been more sick than ever in that and I had a conversation with my trainer and my trainer also said, like cancellations and just people have been like repeatedly sick, just, and all the things like norovirus, you know regular old flu COVID floating around there still, I mean just the cold viruses in general are just more mutated and awful and I'm sick of wait times to get doctor's appointments.

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That is a and that keeps getting longer and longer and it's I worry about that a lot actually, because just reading in the group, the number of women who are waiting for big appointments and important appointments, you know, like your health care from a couple weeks ago, yeah, but people waiting to be seen for things like that, right, like that's scary, you cannot wait.

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But yeah, just, even if you've got a cold, having to wait sucks and like the clinics and things are kind of fill-ins for little stuff but you're spending two, three, four hours waiting like at a minute clinic or something like that.

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Yeah, to be seen.

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Around 47 million other germs you know Right, and then you go in with something, you come out with something else.

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It's a two for one deal.

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Two for.

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So the wait times are rough and I think that that, like doubly, is concerning Because we're not treating science very well right now and it makes doctors nervous to be doctors yes, my doctor quit the hospital system so we have to pay a monthly fee basically for her to be my doctor still, which is fine, yeah, so she doesn't use insurance anymore, so we pay for me and my daughter.

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Both my husband's got insurance through his work, so it works out differently.

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But he yeah, my doctor has decided that she can't do the rules that insurance puts on doctors.

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Right, like you have 20 minutes and then you have to be out.

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You cannot spend a moment longer with them.

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You've only got this amount of time.

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So diagnose and get out.

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And my doctor is very loquacious and likes to have long conversations and likes to dig in on what the heck's going on with me and with her patients.

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So she's stopped that and in some ways it's so far.

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I think it's been really good because I literally could pick up my phone and text her if I need anything, like hey, I need another prescription for blah blah, blah, she can call it in, I just text her for it.

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Oh, wow, it's pretty nice.

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I mean and I think we haven't tested this yet, but I think I can take the fee, that monthly fee, and have my HSA pay for it.

00:20:26.752 --> 00:20:39.723
Okay so there's a fee like if you look at like so there's a fee, like if you look at like an out of pocket deductible, is it higher than equivalent?

00:20:39.723 --> 00:20:44.126
You know deductibles can be anywhere from 4,000 to 10,000 a year, I think it's.

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It feels like it's less than that.

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Okay, so you know, and with that I could go see her in person, you know, anytime I wanted to, or I could do a virtual appointment with her, okay, pretty much anytime we needed.

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So so it's pretty nice and I guess I would say, if you're having trouble with a doctor and trying to get in in a traditional environment, if you can afford to do that money upfront like that, then it might be a good option for some folks.

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I've heard more and more of that happening.

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Yeah, I definitely have heard about it.

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With specialized medicine, I know there's a hormone replacement specialist in town that went away from the insurance model and only does that pay for service model.

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Seems to work really well for them too.

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That was similar for my psychologist who did my ADHD diagnosis.

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This person explained to me that their whole practice left insurance because insurance wouldn't allow them to do the test that would actually give you an accurate diagnosis.

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Unbelievable.

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Testing was so limited and by the time they got done implementing it, spending all those hours and then doing the interpretations, they were losing money.

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Like it would cost them money then to follow up with the patient and go through all of the interpretation and and it still wasn't covered, like the tests that they really needed to do still weren't covered in addition.

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Yeah, I mean if you next time you're in the doctor like if you're in a doctor's office and they're still working with insurance companies check your watch and see when you get in there and when they leave the room and how long you actually have with them.

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Because this hormone replacement doctor that I was talking to, he said that the insurance companies literally will deny your payment if you're not in and out within 20 minutes is at least for him that's how it was, and so you'll see like doctors get up and walk towards the door and have their hand on the doorknob and you're like still having a conversation with them and they're they're talking to you as they walk backwards out the door, kind of thing.

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That's just that's not.

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That's not good medicine, that's not great.

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So that's stressful for them and not good for us.

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Right, Right.

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And it's not the doctor's fault there, you know they.

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They have rules that they have to adhere to.

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Heck, yeah, it sucks, yeah, okay, well, that's.

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That's a tiny nugget of what we're sick of today.

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I think that's a pretty damn good thing to be sick of Now.

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that's a pretty damn good thing to be sick of.

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Right now, that's what I'm sick of.

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Damn it.

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Oh my gosh, okay.

00:25:51.077 --> 00:25:53.317
So I have a question for you, leslie.

00:25:53.317 --> 00:25:54.955
Yes, ma'am, I'm ready.

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I want to know when you were a wee tot or, you know, a teenager or?

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somewhere in between A tater tot.

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What did you think this world was going to be like in?

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Like the year 2020, you know, or like the year 2000,.

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You know, because I'm thinking like when we were in elementary school, the year 2000 or the year 2020 was a really long, long way in the future.

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Yeah, it was, and you know, we were watching all these spacey movies and stuff.

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What did you think your life was going to be like?

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So I have a really specific memory of a science project that I had to do in middle school some time and I went to a really unique middle school.

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I went to a Montessori school, so like grades were big, I don't know.

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So it was like six something, whatever, and it was um, what did you think like your city of the future would be?

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Okay?

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And mine was underwater and I remember like drawing this like bell jar thing that would like sink down in the ocean and it had like multiple floors and we could see outside and see all the ocean life all around us and it was really complex.

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It was like where the waste was and how we would cook and how we would deal with like air, and I had like a complex system of like tubes that would go up above and then down below, and but I was convinced that we were going to live underwater, which is the opposite of outer space.

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It's inner space.

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It's inner space, baby.

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That's cool.

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I love that you like figured out the air, the air handling system in the underwater world yes, I can kind of see this like pencil drawing that I did.

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Yeah, it was cool and like because we had to know how to grow food in there and like I knew if you needed to like cook something you'd have to be able to ventilate, like smoke you, you know, you'd air particulates and stuff, and it was like multiple floors.

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I mean, I, I wouldn't be surprised if I don't have it in a box somewhere, cause I'm a little bit of a like nostalgia paper.

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No, I think that's cool.

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So that's what I imagined.

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Okay, that's the first thing that comes to mind.

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What about you?

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What was the future?

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How far in the future was the future?

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Well, I mean, I remember like thinking, how morbid is this.

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I remember thinking, well, I wonder if I'll live to see 2030.

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You know, like my God, if I live to 2030, that makes me really old, absolutely.

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Like oh shit.

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Like I look at the calendar now and I'm to 2030, that makes me really old Absolutely.

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It's like oh shit.

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I look at the calendar now and I'm like, well, fuck me.

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So who knew?

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But I remember, for whatever reason, 2030 was like the magic number that I was like, if I live to that, I'm old.

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But I never got so detailed like that.

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You had a whole city planned out.

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I think I let walt disney do that for me.

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Oh, but yes, I expected a flying car.

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I expected like hoverboards and a flying car, and I'm still.

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I'm still a little pissed, honestly, to be to be completely honest, I am not happy about the fact that we do not have flying cars.

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I feel so many cartoons the jets flying car, yeah, yeah, star wars, land speed flying car yeah yeah, do we have one?

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no, we do not.

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And in fact, do you remember when that stupid Segway scooter thing was coming out?

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Do you remember that thing?

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Yeah, do you remember how they marketed those?

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No.

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So they made this big announcement that the transportation of the future was going to be unveiled, and it was this big hullabaloo and this is.

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I mean, this was like I don't know 20 years ago or whatever, when they did this and I was watching that and I was thinking, oh, they're going to unveil the flying car and I was so excited and then it was a fucking segue it's like so stupid, they don't make them.

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No, no, they just no.

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I think they make them for like, like you can't go buy one now and and that was like.

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That was like gonna be the thing, like you were gonna buy that and then they were gonna have to like rebuild roads to accommodate the segway.

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Like there was this whole thing about that which was so dumb, because we want to ride like a motor, yeah, like you're gonna ride, like just push forward and like not fall in your, I don't know anyway super stupid but they still have them.

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I know you can.

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You can do like tours and in different parks, like in city parks and stuff like that.

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I think they've got them in DC and I know they've got them in Indian, like White River State Park, so you could go do a half an hour segue tour, of which 20 minutes of that is you trying to learn how to stay on the thing without falling off Right.

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Did you ever ride one?

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I have.

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Yeah, they're dumb Like truly.

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I hope I'm not offending anybody who is like a massive fan of the Segway.

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I love Segways.

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I'm in a Segway gang Not until 2030.

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Then we can join the Segayn leggings, because we'll be in the future and really old.

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Yeah, so stupid, but anyway, I expected a flying car uh, yes, agreed, I mean, I still bitch about it.

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It was what was advertised.

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Flying cars If we look at the Jetsons, flying cars, robot maids, robot maids, space dogs, yeah, Like a little.

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You just float around in space.

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Yeah, what else?

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Well, I mean, you promised.

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We had Buck Rogers.

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We had Battlestar Galactica.

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We had buck rogers.

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We had battle star galactica.

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We had star wars.

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We had um star trek, star trek, oh, freaking star trek.

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Like we should be able to like beam from one space to another space.

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Right, couldn't I be able to like beam to London for lunch or something?

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Yes, we are woefully behind on the beaming I want to be able to beam.

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Because that was, I mean, solved all of our problems.

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If we would just get that sorted.

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Certainly our travel issues would be limited, although I suspect, like with millions of people beaming to millions of places, there's like there's gonna be like particles that get crossed and then you end up like with somebody else's eyeball or I don't know.

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It's like mr mrs, potato head little parts out and I imagine them mixing with like did you ever play the cootie game when you were a little kid?

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there's like potato heads and cooties, yep you get a like antenna hanging out of your ear strong kind of like.

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We're like sort of a cootie antenna hanging out of your ear hole.

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There you go we know what happens if we beam.

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We turn into the fly.

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We've watched that movie.

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Yes, you turn into the fly.

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You do not want to do that.

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I mean, if we're going to beam, I hope we get the technology right.

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So the future.

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I think also that we were reading some kind of reflections from kids in the 80s about.

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Yeah, I found some on Smithsonian Magazine that were really cute, like an article that somebody had done, and some of these kids, like this kid, Marty, was age 10.

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And he said in the year 2000, we will have all round buildings, we will have a robot teacher, a robot maid and all workers will be robots too.

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A robot teacher, a robot maid and all workers will be robots too.

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We will have a pocket computer that has everything you can name and we'll be able to push a button and get anything we want.

00:34:41.804 --> 00:34:56.563
So we do have pocket computers, right, We've got like our cell phones that are pretty pocket computer-like, Although Surrey is woefully inaccurate or like woefully lame compared to like what I expected.

00:34:56.563 --> 00:34:58.545
Oh, absolutely In the year 2025.

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You can't actually just ask Siri questions and have correct answers.

00:35:03.842 --> 00:35:13.418
It's basically like here's something I found on the internet, but you're going to have to click it and read it to get the information and I'm like I'm fucking driving, siri.

00:35:13.418 --> 00:35:16.596
That's why I'm asking you this question right, right.

00:35:17.157 --> 00:35:22.030
Or like I'd like you to put something on my calendar and then remind.

00:35:22.030 --> 00:35:25.119
Like you can't chain, ask siri to do things.

00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:33.315
So like it's not really a it's not really a helpful assistant, it's just like handle more than one task Right Like thanks.

00:35:33.876 --> 00:35:36.960
It's just as linear as human beings yeah.

00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.884
Siri Right.

00:35:39.903 --> 00:35:43.494
Siri, can you help me with my ADHD?

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This one's kind of fun.

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This was Tim, who was also 10 in the year 2000.

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Everybody might be walking instead of riding in their cars, because there might be a gas shortage by then Cars give out a lot of pollution.

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Or there might even be electric cars instead of gas cars.

00:36:06.490 --> 00:36:07.315
Hey, got that one right.

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The year 2000 may send ladies to the moon to explore and look and see if there are people living on the moon.

00:36:14.971 --> 00:36:31.297
I like that very specific differentiation that it's women who are doing the exploring they're going to send the ladies to find the people on the moon, because we don't trust sending the gents, or maybe we just don't like ladies so much and we're just trying to get rid of them and send them to the moon.

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He said also, when you work, you will push buttons and robots will come out and do the work for you and there will be lower prices and taxes.

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I hope.

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Oh well.

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There were some pretty good.

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I found a few and I think these are kind of things that I thought about as a young person.

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In the future, we'll all be healthy, right, like we'll be well, there'll be a cure for the common cold, saving people from cancer.

00:37:03.483 --> 00:37:11.295
We'll live for like 150 years, this young gentleman said.

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Medical facilities and growth will double the current size to handle the aging population.

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And this is a very complicated sentence, cosmetic and genetic advancement.

00:37:20.802 --> 00:37:40.217
But they just assumed like, of course, we're going to take better care of people, right, we're going to be healthier, we're going to be actively working to help people, people, and I find that very ironic given our current climate where we seem to be actively undermining these things.

00:37:40.237 --> 00:37:42.164
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I really did think.

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I remember thinking as a kid that we would have a longer lifespan.

00:37:46.219 --> 00:37:53.574
Yeah, absolutely, like we'd live to be 150 years old, right, yes, yeah, that's not happening.

00:37:53.574 --> 00:37:55.458
No, I'm not kidding.

00:37:55.458 --> 00:37:57.262
I'm not getting my fucking flying car.

00:37:57.262 --> 00:38:01.746
No, flying car, and I could drop dead at any second, so that's great I mean technically.

00:38:01.766 --> 00:38:03.010
I guess that's always true.

00:38:03.010 --> 00:38:06.356
I guess that's right, I'm dead at any second.

00:38:07.579 --> 00:38:35.293
Um, there were a lot of predictions for, like john, this nuclear war really influenced our thinking about the future uh, I know it did me, but yeah, like I'm flipping through some of these readings, what some of these kids said, like we all should be talking to therapists because, holy shit, like we were really terrified of of nuclear war.

00:38:35.293 --> 00:38:38.802
It was everything in the back of our minds.

00:38:38.802 --> 00:38:40.757
I mean, we had drills at school, right we?

00:38:40.777 --> 00:38:41.539
had all that shit.

00:38:42.291 --> 00:38:45.780
And then we had movies like war games, yeah.

00:38:45.780 --> 00:38:49.699
And then we had other movies like the day after tomorrow.

00:38:49.699 --> 00:38:50.581
Do you remember that thing?

00:38:50.581 --> 00:38:59.463
So that was, um, it was like a like a TV special, I think, or it was something I don't remember.

00:38:59.463 --> 00:39:00.856
I don't think you saw it in school.

00:39:00.856 --> 00:39:18.664
I think it was like a TV special, okay, and it was literally like the day after a nuclear war happened and horrific, like scary, scary shit, and a kid was like the, the main character in that.

00:39:18.664 --> 00:39:20.250
So crazy.

00:39:20.911 --> 00:39:25.492
I probably watched it, I probably just don't remember it, which I'm finding really amusing right now.

00:39:25.934 --> 00:39:27.820
Well, and I hope that you don't remember it.

00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:29.085
I hope that you're.

00:39:29.085 --> 00:39:30.250
It's not.

00:39:30.250 --> 00:39:33.894
You're not carrying that around with you.

00:39:33.894 --> 00:39:43.538
I was always petrified that we were going to get blowed up, like that was always in the back of my head.

00:39:43.538 --> 00:40:08.115
But that's partially due to where we lived, because growing up we lived near the Naval Avionics building in Indianapolis which my grandmother, when we would drive by that would remind me literally every time we drove by it that it was on one of the top places that would get nuked if we were going to have a nuclear war.

00:40:08.356 --> 00:40:09.679
Grandma, what the fuck?

00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:11.903
What are you doing?

00:40:11.903 --> 00:40:22.159
I would say maybe one thing that we've done like weren't there like supersonic planes for a little while, like supersonic flight, we had the Concorde, yeah, we had the Concorde yeah.

00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:22.891
Does that?

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still do its thing.

00:40:24.152 --> 00:40:26.798
Nope, concorde's been retired.

00:40:26.798 --> 00:40:27.900
What happened there?

00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:33.557
I don't know All the futures in the past, I don't know man, I know we're going backwards.

00:40:35.813 --> 00:40:42.536
Get in your cave, leslie I'm sorry, I will draw some shit on a cave wall.

00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.465
What I said draw some shit on a cave wall.

00:40:46.505 --> 00:40:49.876
That's all you got and leave it for the future.

00:40:49.876 --> 00:40:55.876
When they look back and they're like, man, that was so long ago and I was like, no bro, we had like computers and shit.

00:40:55.876 --> 00:40:58.411
Yeah, I was drawing in my cave.

00:40:58.411 --> 00:41:00.115
It's cool we were this close.

00:41:00.115 --> 00:41:15.277
Uh, this article on paleo future, the history of the future about the 80s, there's this little section on government and this young man says people with big investments will have more say in governing the city through big-time politics.

00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:18.463
Oh, oh, ouch.

00:41:19.769 --> 00:41:24.961
Okay, nostradamus, we were forecasting oh, this one's good, this one's good.

00:41:24.961 --> 00:41:33.201
The governor will be a wild and crazy old man with a robot to enforce all his laws and a computer to control all human thoughts.

00:41:33.201 --> 00:41:36.414
Oh, my God, but it's not that far off, dear God.

00:41:36.414 --> 00:42:03.740
I just thought it was funny, but but I really I thought that like the future was going to be about technology improvement, ease to life, health, longer life, environmental restoration, just finding ways to not Because we grew up, we're the acid rain generation, we're the nuclear generation.

00:42:04.090 --> 00:42:05.750
Hole in the ozone, all the things.

00:42:05.929 --> 00:42:07.414
Recycling needs to happen.

00:42:07.414 --> 00:42:08.797
Yeah, the hole in the ozone.

00:42:08.797 --> 00:42:10.501
Stop using fucking hairspray.

00:42:10.501 --> 00:42:14.614
We got rid of styrofoam.

00:42:14.614 --> 00:42:18.862
We got rid of paper grocerycdonald's.

00:42:19.184 --> 00:42:24.916
Mcdonald's the big blt, you know got rid of that shit.

00:42:25.117 --> 00:42:33.795
So the assumption was we're gonna have a healthier, healthier, better planet where we're like this is the future.

00:42:33.795 --> 00:42:39.143
We're gonna take care of things so that we can live for a long time, and space exploration, of course.

00:42:40.445 --> 00:42:41.871
Right, right, we would have.

00:42:41.871 --> 00:42:56.139
I did expect that we would have a colony of some sort somewhere, I mean the space station, cool, right, yeah, I guess I thought that we would have a colony on the moon or a colony on probably, you know, maybe Mars.

00:42:56.139 --> 00:42:59.686
I guess I thought that we would have a colony on the moon or colony on probably, you know, maybe Mars, I guess.

00:43:00.911 --> 00:43:02.375
It's the most popular planet.

00:43:02.375 --> 00:43:03.277
It is.

00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:09.961
It is and probable that there was water there at some time, so you know.

00:43:10.362 --> 00:43:15.228
Yeah, but definitely there would be a small group of people living on the moon at this point.

00:43:15.228 --> 00:43:15.489
Yeah.

00:43:17.032 --> 00:43:21.769
We also should have had technology to do things like blow up asteroids if we needed to Like.

00:43:21.769 --> 00:43:32.293
Remember all those movies where an asteroid was coming and they could figure out a way to blow it up in mid coming at you, we don't even have a decent spaceship.

00:43:32.574 --> 00:43:36.380
Really no, Not truly no.

00:43:36.380 --> 00:43:37.963
Where's my X-Wing fighter?

00:43:39.971 --> 00:43:43.141
If I can't have a flying car, honey, you can't have an X-Wing.

00:43:43.949 --> 00:43:46.494
Come on, I know we can't.

00:43:46.494 --> 00:43:58.894
I mean, there are lots of comments we could make about rockets not being able to even make it to Well you know, but globally even there have been some not great recent rocket launches.

00:43:58.954 --> 00:44:11.371
it's like we can't really figure it out which is wild, because we already kind of figured it out I know and now it's a real science person would like call in and be like ladies.

00:44:11.572 --> 00:44:12.932
Let me explain this to you.

00:44:12.932 --> 00:44:23.164
So so you hear you theorizing, but let me chat with you about this a little bit and explain astrophysics.

00:44:23.405 --> 00:44:23.905
And Jess.

00:44:23.905 --> 00:44:24.686
Here's why.

00:44:27.150 --> 00:44:29.739
Here's why you can't have your flying car.

00:44:29.739 --> 00:44:30.201
This is why.

00:44:30.201 --> 00:44:35.239
This is why we can't have nice things, Because we're the experts at it.

00:44:36.789 --> 00:44:47.980
You know, like I mentioned Disney, yeah, so in Epcot, right, that was supposed to be the world of the future, right.

00:44:47.980 --> 00:44:56.599
So I mean, I grew up going there and I remember when that opened and I was like, oh well, here we are.

00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.318
We're like, we're ready, this is it.

00:44:59.318 --> 00:45:01.396
Now we just need to make more of this.

00:45:01.677 --> 00:45:05.219
Yep, we're seconds away from it all happening.

00:45:05.219 --> 00:45:07.014
What's the ride?

00:45:07.014 --> 00:45:07.978
The round?

00:45:07.978 --> 00:45:11.135
Oh, it's like the classic.

00:45:11.135 --> 00:45:16.512
Oh my God, do you remember?

00:45:16.512 --> 00:45:27.032
We got that little piece of fan mail from she's yelling at us right now, going I know all the words that you can't remember the carousel of progress.

00:45:27.032 --> 00:45:28.554
I love that?

00:45:28.554 --> 00:45:31.983
Yeah, cause her letter was like I know what you're trying to say.

00:45:31.983 --> 00:45:35.295
I'm like please just inject it into my brain.

00:45:35.295 --> 00:45:37.601
Yeah, carousel of progress.

00:45:37.601 --> 00:45:41.675
I thought that that was so freaking cool yeah, it's still there.

00:45:42.336 --> 00:45:43.259
It's still fabulous.

00:45:43.259 --> 00:45:47.572
I mean, that was a, that was from a um a world's fair.

00:45:47.572 --> 00:45:54.541
It was like the 1960, 1970, 68, 68 world fair, something like that.

00:45:54.541 --> 00:45:56.463
Okay, yeah, so that.

00:45:56.463 --> 00:45:57.606
And then it was moved.

00:45:57.606 --> 00:46:02.940
So disney created that for the world's fair and then it moved to epcot after that.

00:46:03.101 --> 00:46:22.655
So oh, that's cool, I did not know that, or if I had not retained that bit of history that's awesome to know so epcot, experimental prototype community of tomorrow, which never quite saw, you know what it was supposed to be, but that's okay because he died after it.

00:46:23.476 --> 00:46:33.759
Oh he died before he died, before magic kingdom opened in disney in in florida okay, like five, five years, I think, before it actually opened.

00:46:33.759 --> 00:46:37.065
So he never saw Epcot.

00:46:37.065 --> 00:46:41.056
But they do have the original model that he was working from.

00:46:41.056 --> 00:46:48.670
I think that's on the Tomorrowland truck.

00:46:48.670 --> 00:46:51.677
Now I'm losing my words again, damn damn, damn.

00:46:51.717 --> 00:46:52.641
I like what you're talking about.

00:46:53.331 --> 00:46:57.195
Like the little people mover, the people mover, you can go through and see it.

00:46:57.777 --> 00:46:58.679
Yes yes, yes.

00:47:00.472 --> 00:47:09.824
So Megan Bennett, leslie Meyer From 1980 till now has been 50 years.

00:47:09.824 --> 00:47:14.302
No, however many years 40 years, 40 years 40 years.

00:47:14.831 --> 00:47:16.856
We are 40 years from 1980.

00:47:16.856 --> 00:47:17.579
45 years.

00:47:19.351 --> 00:47:22.780
So what will the future be in 45 more years?

00:47:22.780 --> 00:47:25.677
Like, what's the next future?

00:47:25.677 --> 00:47:28.934
Oh wow.

00:47:28.934 --> 00:47:33.081
And this year is going to be a different answer, probably than any other year.

00:47:33.650 --> 00:47:38.219
Yeah, I don't, I don't know Like I feel a part of that is.

00:47:38.219 --> 00:47:55.000
I feel so cynical right now about everything in the world that we live in and life in general, so it's really hard for me to to think of anything magical and special outside of.

00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:08.402
You know, just getting through the next four years and I just think we're taking we are taking a huge step back with science, yes, and that's it's going to hurt us moving forward.

00:48:08.481 --> 00:48:10.226
So I don't know, I don't know.

00:48:10.226 --> 00:48:18.755
I think we've got so many people in this country who would be very happy just living in the fifties again, right, for all of the things that that means.

00:48:18.755 --> 00:48:21.387
So I don know, I just I don't know.

00:48:21.387 --> 00:48:22.210
I don't have any predictions.

00:48:22.210 --> 00:48:26.699
I hope, I hope aliens come, I hope we have aliens I hope we have aliens.

00:48:26.699 --> 00:48:35.521
I hope we have aliens and I hope they're nice and I hope they don't want to eat us and otherwise you, I hope for aliens?

00:48:35.621 --> 00:48:36.003
Maybe not.

00:48:36.003 --> 00:48:42.213
I don't think we'd be very healthy we're really full of like.

00:48:42.213 --> 00:48:48.239
You know, there's so many pesticides on Earth Going to have a bowl of people and they don't want genetically modified foods.

00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.876
So you know, I don't think so.

00:48:50.876 --> 00:48:51.780
You know what it's like.

00:48:51.780 --> 00:48:54.704
We get some organic people.

00:48:55.228 --> 00:48:56.175
What they're going to get some organic people?

00:48:56.175 --> 00:48:56.577
Well, they're gonna.

00:48:56.577 --> 00:48:57.945
They're gonna get some organic people.

00:48:57.945 --> 00:49:02.958
They're only getting californians and people from oregon and people from washington.

00:49:02.978 --> 00:49:09.574
Uh they're gonna have organic and in non-organic gm, gmo.

00:49:09.574 --> 00:49:14.121
Uh, soylent green, yeah, because green is people.

00:49:14.121 --> 00:49:15.222
That's right.

00:49:15.222 --> 00:49:23.056
I mean, you know it's been a long time since we have done a five minutes of fame.

00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:29.452
Oh, we should do one because we have one let's drop one in hi, my name is amy bragg.

00:49:29.753 --> 00:49:39.474
This is the story of how I got the fabulous picture of henry rollins that I posted in the gen x women Are Sick of this Shit Facebook group and the adventure that brought it about.

00:49:39.474 --> 00:49:46.135
In 1995, I made good friends with an exchange student from France who lived in my building.

00:49:46.135 --> 00:49:54.954
We became thick as thieves and when I dropped her off at the airport the next spring, through my ugly crying, my last words to her were see you in France.

00:49:54.954 --> 00:50:13.492
This little pipe dream of mine started to look like a reality when, the following fall, I had about $850 left over for my student loans just enough to cover my round trip airfare, which saving for was the biggest hurdle I became determined I'd make this happen.

00:50:13.492 --> 00:50:24.739
My mom, a math whiz, helped me calculate what I would need to save each week to get by on a $50 a day budget, which would have to cover lodging hello, $8.

00:50:24.739 --> 00:50:26.041
Youth hostel in Barcelona.

00:50:26.041 --> 00:50:28.063
Food hello.

00:50:28.063 --> 00:50:34.447
Open air markets with fresh meats and cheeses and baguettes to make sandwiches and any sous-vides I might want.

00:50:34.447 --> 00:50:38.331
Make sandwiches and any sous-vides I might want.

00:50:38.331 --> 00:50:40.336
Hello, t-shirts and ashtrays from cool pubs around Western Europe.

00:50:40.356 --> 00:50:47.398
Well, I worked as a waitress at a flash-in-the-pan microbrewery restaurant whose nighttime popularity started to wane.

00:50:47.398 --> 00:50:59.293
I was living in my first-ever apartment While the downtown restaurant maintained a thriving lunch crowd of suits who worked downtown, evenings were slow and I couldn't work the lunch rush because of school.

00:50:59.293 --> 00:51:03.003
So between rent and my shitty tips, I was saving zilch.

00:51:03.003 --> 00:51:16.844
So, with the blessing of my parents, who prioritized a college education above just about everything, at the end of the semester I moved back home, took the semester off and got a waitressing job at Red Lobster where I made bank.

00:51:16.844 --> 00:51:25.753
I remember every week I deposited $125 into my savings account and had plenty left over to party hard with my friends and co-workers.

00:51:25.753 --> 00:51:33.199
My parents gave me my rucksack and let's go Europe for Christmas and I think they paid for my year rail pass For my birthday.

00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:34.831
It was a cutting edge for the day.

00:51:34.831 --> 00:51:40.134
Little APX camera that took great pics, a detail that will be important to the story.

00:51:40.134 --> 00:51:48.797
So I did it, with a flight into Barcelona and out of Paris two months later and a year rail pass for everything in between.

00:51:48.797 --> 00:51:49.880
Off I went.

00:51:50.561 --> 00:51:52.411
But then, culture shock.

00:51:52.411 --> 00:52:03.340
In Barcelona, I famously whined to my mom they don't have air conditioning, it's hot everywhere, I stink, everyone stinks and everyone is speaking Spanish.

00:52:03.340 --> 00:52:07.333
I knew enough to ask for a beer, a cigarette in the restroom.

00:52:07.333 --> 00:52:17.077
Two days in, and I was over it and ready to leave, my mother told me if that's what you want to do, this is your trip, you paid for it and you can change it and come right back home.

00:52:17.077 --> 00:52:22.833
But I'm here to tell you if you do that, you are going to regret it for the rest of your life.

00:52:22.833 --> 00:52:24.438
And so I stayed.

00:52:24.438 --> 00:52:25.981
And how right she was.

00:52:25.981 --> 00:52:34.913
Anyway, while I was still going fucking nuts with culture shock, she suggested maybe my next stop should be somewhere where English is the native language.

00:52:35.534 --> 00:52:41.304
Enter next stop London, to catch a train and then a ferry to spend the week roaming around Ireland.

00:52:41.304 --> 00:52:43.411
My last stop there was Dublin.

00:52:43.411 --> 00:52:47.702
I had mentioned to someone at my youth hostel how hot I thought Henry Rollins was.

00:52:47.702 --> 00:52:52.141
Just randomly, we were talking about celebs we would like to bang, or something like that.

00:52:52.141 --> 00:53:01.458
A day or two later, one of them, who didn't even know who he was, told me that they had seen a big poster at a bus stop and that he was playing a gig there.

00:53:01.458 --> 00:53:20.003
In 10 days I returned to London to see those sites and mom again helped me out by springing for a concert ticket because I had no clue how to go about purchasing a ticket in a foreign land and this was in the super early days of the internet and a BritRail pass so I could see those sites and get back to Ireland.

00:53:20.003 --> 00:53:29.099
Anyway, when she bought the ticket, the salesperson refused to sell her a pit ticket for the wheel off so balcony it was.

00:53:29.099 --> 00:53:31.757
So I went back to Dublin 10 days later.

00:53:32.590 --> 00:53:36.460
Once settled into that youth hostel, I strolled around the vicinity of the show.

00:53:36.460 --> 00:53:43.023
I was by myself and wanted to make sure I could find the venue ahead of time so as not to miss any of the show Done.

00:53:43.023 --> 00:53:48.581
So then I went to a pub for a couple of beers and I think I saw someone in a black flag T-shirt.

00:53:48.581 --> 00:53:57.240
I'm shy, initiating conversation with strangers, so I put on my big girl panties and asked this person if they were on their way to the show, which of course they were.

00:53:57.240 --> 00:54:03.855
Turns out, this person and their group of friends were locals who had seen him at this venue multiple times.

00:54:03.855 --> 00:54:08.393
They told me they knew and then physically walked me by the exit.

00:54:08.393 --> 00:54:10.380
They said he always left through after the show.

00:54:10.722 --> 00:54:19.079
So I made my way outside to that exit and there wasn't a huge, huge crowd, but enough people that it clearly wasn't entirely a secret about this exit.

00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:24.405
And out he came, the sexiest man alive himself.

00:54:24.405 --> 00:54:27.514
I so wanted to be in the picture I took.

00:54:27.514 --> 00:54:33.280
But traveling solo I didn't trust anyone enough to hand them my fancy little camera and take the picture.

00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:38.735
I didn't want to relive the moment that Chevy Chase has his camera stolen in European Vacation.

00:54:38.735 --> 00:54:45.414
But Henry looked like he might break the said fancy little camera out of my hand if the flash went off.

00:54:45.414 --> 00:54:50.914
So once again I put on my big girl panties and asked if he minded if I took a picture of him.

00:54:50.914 --> 00:54:54.483
He said sure, but make it quick because my car is waiting.

00:54:54.483 --> 00:54:59.262
And just like that he gave the iconic Henry stare right into my camera.

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Of course we still developed film in those days.

00:55:02.061 --> 00:55:03.289
This was 1997.

00:55:03.289 --> 00:55:08.201
When I got home I developed about 20 or so rolls of APX film.

00:55:08.201 --> 00:55:14.302
I was worried that since it had been so dark at the exit of the venue that the picture of Henry wouldn't come out.

00:55:14.302 --> 00:55:16.938
But it came out, great, great and I was thrilled.

00:55:16.938 --> 00:55:26.443
But nowadays his spoken word is off the chain and his silver fox self is so sexy.

00:55:26.443 --> 00:55:31.137
He's so articulate and intelligent, which to me skyrockets his sex appeal.

00:55:31.137 --> 00:55:48.784
I would love to attend one of his spoken word shows, maybe catch him at the exit again and get a selfie with his silver sexy self, and maybe even show him the picture that I shared on the Facebook group and how this shy little 21 year old girl on the adventure of a lifetime managed to get it.

00:55:48.784 --> 00:56:02.233
Of course, a much shorter version of the story than I have told here than I have told here.

00:56:03.956 --> 00:56:10.248
So, you I presume that you have done the backstage checking or meeting, meeting celebrities backstage after a show.

00:56:10.248 --> 00:56:11.469
No, no, no, I am too shy Really.

00:56:11.469 --> 00:56:12.771
Yes, well, yeah, I cuz I.

00:56:12.771 --> 00:56:15.458
Yeah, yeah, it's not even that's just.

00:56:15.458 --> 00:56:25.514
I mean, I think if there was likea big group of people I would go, but I don't like track people down, I'm sort of like oh, man that's your personal life and I.

00:56:25.594 --> 00:56:27.358
You don't need me to be involved.

00:56:27.358 --> 00:56:37.092
If it's invitational, I will participate, but if somebody is like, come on, let's go buy, I'm like it was just too scary.

00:56:37.112 --> 00:56:39.278
Oh, my goodness, I mean, maybe that's just some of the shows that I went to.

00:56:39.278 --> 00:56:45.317
I don't know, like I always go back to the back door.

00:56:45.777 --> 00:56:46.900
Well, and hang out.

00:56:47.422 --> 00:56:50.018
Yeah, I met some really, really cool people.

00:56:50.018 --> 00:56:53.474
So I met Johnny Marr, I've met, like both of the brothers from the Jesus and Mary chain.

00:56:53.474 --> 00:56:56.583
I've met, like both of the brothers from the Jesus and Mary chain.

00:56:56.583 --> 00:56:57.467
I've met.

00:56:57.467 --> 00:57:00.077
I met Debbie Harry.

00:57:00.077 --> 00:57:03.052
Oh nice, she did not like me.

00:57:03.052 --> 00:57:05.898
Oh no, no, no.

00:57:06.237 --> 00:57:06.659
Sorry.

00:57:07.099 --> 00:57:09.003
Yeah, that was fine, whatever?

00:57:09.262 --> 00:57:10.085
I still like her.

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You got to say hello, I still like her.

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My husband, who was my boyfriend at the time, and I went backstage with the band Material Issue.

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They invited us backstage so we hung out with them, which was really cool Although we have guilt issues because they wanted to go out and party with us and we were like we're going to go home, we're tired because we're old farts.

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Even then it wasn't, but maybe three or four months later that the lead singer committed suicide, so I'm like I've got all kinds of guilt about that.

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I should have been his best friend and it would have been fine.

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Um, oh my gosh.

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Yeah, I've got this.

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Yeah, giant list of people.

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No, dang girl.

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I have been invited, like as an invitation, to go and hang out with people, but not because I was hanging out, it was like a pre gotcha and situation.

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Well, we'll go to some shows and I will drag you to the back door.

00:58:08.858 --> 00:58:10.503
I'll be like I don't.

00:58:10.623 --> 00:58:16.619
They need to go make hot tea with lemon right now well then, we'll show up with hot tea with lemon.

00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:17.541
Here's some hot tea with lemon right now.

00:58:17.541 --> 00:58:18.664
Well then, we'll show up with hot tea with lemon.

00:58:18.664 --> 00:58:20.233
Here's some hot tea.

00:58:20.233 --> 00:58:21.440
We need hot tea.

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.500
Well, this has been fun.

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This has been fun.

00:58:25.094 --> 00:58:26.474
It's weird on remote.

00:58:26.494 --> 00:58:27.077
It is weird.

00:58:27.871 --> 00:58:29.257
It's weird remote, but it's okay.

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This will be a it's our under construction episode and we're lamenting all that we did not get in the future that we were promised.

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.557
Yes, in the future we'll be in person.

00:58:43.849 --> 00:58:50.601
We will be in person and maybe we'll like mix a little martini kind of situation.

00:58:50.601 --> 00:58:52.503
It's a martini set.

00:58:52.503 --> 00:58:54.326
It's kind of a seventies.

00:58:54.326 --> 00:58:57.318
It's cool, it used, yeah, it's mad men ish.

00:58:57.318 --> 00:58:58.282
It is kind of a 70s.

00:58:58.282 --> 00:58:59.369
It's cool, it's mad men-ish.

00:58:59.369 --> 00:59:01.574
It is a little bit.

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So the thing that we found is it's a home bar and as far as I know, they used to be sold by Sears and Roebuck in the late 60s, early 70s, how about that?

00:59:15.730 --> 00:59:18.599
And there was a second piece that would hang behind it.

00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:26.494
That was not with this bar, um, but I have found more on the internet and we got a good deal we did.

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So I'm super psyched and we're gonna dress it and we're gonna have a good time that is awesome.

00:59:32.077 --> 00:59:33.000
I can't wait to play with it.

00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:33.884
Me too, we'll do.

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If we have to record in the mornings, we'll have to do mimosas or something.

00:59:37.230 --> 00:59:38.413
That's fine, we can.

00:59:38.413 --> 00:59:48.824
We can say, whatever time it is, that's right, we don't care, we'll make a like a longer space so that we can like have some preview time.

00:59:48.824 --> 00:59:50.476
We got to get warmed up, we got to.

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We'll make some more time for this next episode.

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It'll be good.

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Thanks for listening, thanks for joining along everybody.

00:59:58.172 --> 00:59:59.735
Yeah, super appreciate it.

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Yes, if you have criticisms, keep them to yourselves, right?

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No, you can give it to those two.

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I mean, if you're like you guys are a little quiet, like technical stuff, totally fine.

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If you're being snarky, you have been listening to Gen X.

01:00:27.094 --> 01:00:28.878
Women are sick of this shit.

01:00:28.878 --> 01:00:33.737
Hey Megan, hey Leslie, what do people do if they want to find us?

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Well, we have a website that people can find us on, and that is genxwomenpodcom.

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We also have a Facebook page.

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We have an Instagram account as well.

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We have a YouTube account where we put YouTube shorts and other little tidbits up there.

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We have a TikTok account.

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I don't talk the dick or tick the tock.

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You don't tick the tock, I barely talk the tick.

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But I did put a TikTok up.

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We're explaining the internet to people again.

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That's okay.

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Though it's great, we need to know how the internet works.

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Can people buy merch?

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They absolutely can.

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We have a merch store on the website itself, and we also have an Etsy store too, which is pretty easy to find.

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It's just Gen X Women on Etsy.

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And if you are listening to this podcast, presumably you found it somewhere.

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And while you're there, give us a review.

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Throw some stars at us, that'd be great.

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We'll take one, two, three, four or five.

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Ooh five, maybe ten, and also make sure that you are hitting subscribe so that you're notified whenever a new episode drops.

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Most important.

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We also have a five minutes of fame that I think we should tell people about too.

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You can send those stories in on the website or you can call 1-888 GEN-X-POD and leave your story for us and we will play it live in our next episode.

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We'll listen to it on a little red phone, just like Batman.

01:02:10.992 --> 01:02:13.820
That'd be cool, let's get a bat phone A bat phone.

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I think that's it.

01:02:14.382 --> 01:02:15.085
I think you're right.

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That'd be cool to get a bad phone a bad phone.

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I think that's it.

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I think you're right.